35Tegin Jesús aga e-chapinganzhe ekichial: —Imi an akpene pemal-palmisgu, an immal-kwen-nikchul pemal-palmis. Imi teun pemal mani pel chedzhulmal, tegin muchila pel chedzhulmal, tegin pe kutar-ogwaed pel chedzhulmalbal. ¿Imi teun pemalga immalmal-akus o chul? Tegin e-chapingan Jesúsga chogalmal: —Chulá. Anmalga immal kwen napi-kuszhulmal.
36Tegin Jesús aga e-chapinganga chogal: —Imi an akpene pemal-palmijadyob pemalga ib pal kwen kunejulmal. Imidin pe immalmal chedenabmalzhun. Imi pe mani nikal, pe mani chedenab. Tegin pe muchila nikal, pe muchila chedenabbal. Tenal pe es-pilacheed nikchulil, manigin aga pe-chuba uko, tegin pe we manigin aga pe es-pilacheed pako.
37¿Ibiga an teob pemalga chog? Nabir. Imi Pab-kartagin nermakal maido: Ankin choglego, antin tule-iskana. Is. 53:12 Tegin Pab-kartagin-nermakal-maidyob keg-chulgu ankin kuoed-wilub, tenal ankin pato kunai.
38Tegin e-chapingan Jesúsga chogalmal: —Tummad, pe tak, wegin es-pilacheed-kabo mai. Tegin Jesús aga e-chapinganga chogalzhun: —Ogus pe chunmamalma, nemal.