9Wakanjila mungánda yakubetekela lubo wati kuli Jesu, “Uuzwa kuli? Pesi Jesu takwakasandula pe.
10Mpawo Pilato wakati kulinguwe, “Towambuli na kulindime?” Toozi na kuti ndilenguzu zyakukwangununa aanguzu zyakukubambula?
11Jesu wakamusandula, “Tojisi pe kupanguzu alindime kusiya eecho nchiwakapegwa kuzwa kujulu, nikuba oobo, ooyo wandipedya kuli nduwe ulaachibi chipati.”
12Kunsandulo eeyi, Pilato wakeezya kumwangununa pesi bama Juda bakawompoolola kabati, “kuti wangununa mwalumi ooyu, “Tooli muzolwani wa Siza. Woonse ulichita mwami uuwambula ataala a Siza.
13Pilato nakamvwa makani aaya wakeeta Jesu aanze wakkala aachuno chakubetekela mubusena bwiitwa kuti “Ibbuwa lyamabwe,” pesi mumulaka wachi Hibbulu, ni “Gabbata.”